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I still remember coming across Euclid's Elements on my father's shelves (abridged student edition). It was a revelation! And a spur for further reflection: An axiom might be 'self-evidently' true, but why is that fact obvious? What makes truth 'truthful'? It was also the first time I became aware that truth-statements might be 'simple' when stated, but were far from obvious until someone made you aware of it (if you get my meaning).

As for your point above, it is very good (and obvious, once you explain it so clearly :-)

Problem is, the morons aren't interested in truth, logic or reason -- they're playing a tedious social game of moralistic one-upmanship on a rhetorical level, and they're not clever enough to realize the consequences even if it gang-rapes them on the church steps or bankrupts their polity.

I walked away from that game many years ago. I play my own game.

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